Up to 100,000 people died in drug-related violence in Mexico in the last 6 years. We might think this has nothing to do with us, but in fact we are all complicit, says Yale professor Rodrigo Canales in this unflinching talk that turns conventional wisdom about drug cartels on its head. The carnage is not about faceless, ignorant goons mindlessly killing each other but is rather the result of some seriously sophisticated brand management.
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VERY good talk! Señor Canales must be an AWESOME teacher and ...(forgive me!) - "storyteller"! :) The way he presents the topic is AWESOME! :) :)
Tiny "remark"! Something tells me that this SORRYASS LOT ALREADY KNOWS QUITE WELL ...where&how to get their "stuff"! >: )
The drug war is a disaster but the only people you can blame for the violence in Mexico are the people/government of Mexico. Notice that the cartels don't engage in that kind of violence once they are north of the border because US law enforcement and citizenry won't put up with it. Human life is valued here.
The Cartel and the Government are the same - in this description the centralization of wealth is omitted and opportunistic integration with the public sector. I think ... I think it is call human rights but I am not sure.
Why would Govts legalize illegal drugs... Illegal Drugs help with population control, federal and local law enforcement jobs, keeps the Private Prisons full and used as a excuse to take more rights from you... Govts make billions from it..
This guys statistics are totally out of context, he needs re-state that. Thats 4,446 US soldiers dead. The Iraq War 2003-2011 killed over 600,000 people. And Afghanistan has seen constant warfare since 1979, over 2 million dead and Afghanistan has a higher death rate then Mexico. Why? Population capita is different. For every certain amount of people, you are more likely to die in Afghanistan (definitely Iraq) then Mexico.
One problem i see is, the Us and coalition forces casualty's are only one side of that war, and only a part of one side, to make an accurate comparison he would have needed to include the casualty's of the people the us and coalition forces are fighting, along with the casualty's of the police forces from the local population that is fighting on the side of us and coalition forces,
If drug cartels are so fucking smart to invent ways to smuggle drugs and produce drugs in huge quantities
Why just not legalize all drugs so the price / profit goes down so much that its not lucrative anymore.
And if they are so smart why you cartels involved in this billion dollar industry dont think of something doing good for the world we live in.
So put down your sickening drug bussiness and do something more proffessional.
Like holliday parks.
Or stop the war in Syria with all your billions.
Or just enter peace talks.
I want you drugs people have a chance in our world without being affraid of being caught to do peace talks and money investments in exchange of getting building contracts in war countries to build up the destroyed citties and villages again.
But only if you leave your drug bussiness for 100%.
But who am I to think like this.
first of all drugs need to be legalized all over the world for this to happen.
Its a very diffucult operation and very futuristic but it can be done.
You are the world
+Chris James I can't speak for how exactly +TourdeFrance20131 views it, but I see it as a good thing with regulations. Just like how you have drugs that are medically legal or legal to a certain extent.
Thing is, the US war on drugs is much more than prohibition. Troops have been sent south of the border and Agent Orange sprayed on Colombian plantations to engage cartels and destroy opiates. Honestly, if the same resources were spent making other crops more profitable and stabilizing the countries, we would probably see much more progress.
Hmmm, black market institutions may be built from the bottom up. In the regular economy, I'm pretty sure it's top down all the way. But, yeah, there's very little difference between the two economies in many ways.
The history and analysis of the cartels in Mexico is excellent.
The conclusion is vague and muddled. We do not know what policy/s he has a problem with and what his proposed solution is - I found that frustrating. I would have preferred it if he left the ambiguity out altogether.
+Chip yard When the CIA and US military invaded Afghanistan in order to stop the Taliban from producing and distributing opium, Mexican cartels suddenly began producing insane amounts of opium. At the same time, a new political party that is more US and CIA-friendly took office. It's hard to connect the dots because of how clandestine the whole thing is and because of how many parties are involved in the whole thing. But I think there was definitely a connection there.
+Dags Eris It allows them to better get their message around, comic sans gets a lot of bad press from the internet but truth be told, is the most readable font in existence, especially for people with reading disabilities.
ted talks you can talk about any idea but not that the world is being raped by the banksters .i can't believe that the so called smart people (sheeple ) don't get that .so then they must be avoiding it or they are told not to bring it up ?
Good. Now take that economic thinking and apply it to the players in the Middle East. The US, Daesh, Assad, Israel, Putin, Iran and Saudi Arabia. Think branding, think oil, think money, think power - think business.
All drugs should be legalized, its the only way to stop the problem, literally. These criminal organizations thrive on our consumption and lets be honest with ourselves, its always going to be there. Thru legalization we could supply addicts with the best supply knowing what they're taking and the effects of that drug. Hence, no more needless overdoses. With or without government assistance, that specific person was going to buy that drug anyways, but I'd prefer it being the government over Bob the dealer. Treatment could be provided to those seeking to get over their addiction(s). Otherwise, we can just aimlessly talk about the moral repercussions of doing such an action which by all means to a logical person makes completely no sense. Where ever there's a damand I guarantee you there's almost always going to be a supply.
Nope. The government has no right to criminalize drugs. I feel as little guilt buying cocaine and marijuana as I do buying beer or cigarettes. The only difference is cocaine and marijuana are criminalized for no reason. These laws create a black market and crime. I do not obey stupid laws.
_"young addicts have no hope"_
_"they also die at the expense of the person at the top of the chain, who lives a luxurious lifestyle."_
Well, he lives a luxurious lifestyle, as you said it yourself, why would he be bothered? And how is that of any importance at all?
I'm going to anger both sides of the argument here but this is the only solution to the problem. There needs total legalization of drugs with a enormous investment on rehab, education and health help for the users. Basically we need to see drug use as a health issue and we need to attack it as such. The great majority of people who are for legalization are recreational drug users or have been recreational drug users. This people have no problem with drugs and don't understand how bad they can be for a good number of the population of any country. The people against it usually have a moral issue against the drugs but don't understand the problem at all and talk from ignorance. The only people who are really affected and cause all the other problems with this market is the heavy users or addicts. So a huge I'm taking about 3 to 4 percent of GDP investment on eradicating the addicts would bring the problem down and still respect the rights of the citizens. Also it would be a much cheaper solution since treating or preventing addiction would also solve problems with legal drugs. Imagine the cost to government and society that is born from addiction.
+john hawkins Mexico is moving to a decriminalization of drugs. The problem for Mexico is that it's main market for drugs is the USA. Now one could argue that creating a tourist drug market could benefit the border towns and Mexico in general. The best example is what happen with gambling in Tijuana where thousands of jobs where created with the opening of casinos. But taking that as an example one can see that in Mexico nobody invested on a stronger judicial force and help for addicts. Gambling addiction has risen in Mexico since it legalize casinos. So as with any country Mexico would need enormous investment on helping the addicts if it wanted to create drug tourism.
+David Quintana Your idea makes a lot of sense but it is not exactly a new one. Don't you think that there is likely some group of American lobbyist that are taking a big part of that billion dollar pie and they refuse to allow for the legalization of drugs?
+David Quintana The likelihood of America dropping prohibition on all drugs is really very low. For a lot of reasons. What would be the likelihood of Mexico legalizing all drugs? Would this not create an Amsterdam like novelty to border towns? And possibly create aLas Vegas style tourist area, that I'm sure would be controlled by the same legitimized cartels (now corporations). Much like Las Vegas, which has virtually no crime on the The Strip, they could control these border towns as safe places to run and play in an adult playground. And still they could continue clandestine operations across the border. Seems more logical to me. Although the US would fight it tooth and nail.
Excellent talk. The only way to fight these cartels without bloodshed is to diminish the market for their product to such an extent that it is no longer profitable for them to be in the drug business. It is time to look at our own lives and admit that we are the problem because we consume these drugs. Forget about legislation, the law makers and enforcers will never be able to effectively combat the cartels because they are undermined by corruption from within. What is needed is cultural reform, people standing up for themselves and each other, to hold themselves to a higher standard and just saying no to drugs. Everyone who thinks that Marijuana should be legalised, you are the problem. Sure, "legalise it, it's just weed", but once you let one thing slide it quickly becomes a slippery slope and pretty soon everything goes. Legalising is just a cop out, an admittance that you are not strong enough to stand up to this scourge. Most people know someone or knows of someone who uses drugs. Help that person quit, it is your moral responsibility. Think about what you want for your children. Do you want to raise a generation dependent on drugs? It's time to look in the mirror and admit that we are the problem, not the cartels.
trying control other people's lives by making drugs illegal IS the problem
How did the prohibition work out for america? And the government will still try to control people because it gives their cronies tons of extra cash and police corruption in america is RAMPANT as well thanks to this war against drugs that's actually a CRIME AGAINST HUMANITY no less
+Bryan Lightningrod thats the problem , that in Mexico during the 70s the govt...let the people do what ever they want in return for more lobbying interests.
The people in Mexico don't respect the laws, they run read lights and bribe police officers instead of paying tickets. My nephew even bribed his teacher for a 8(B grade).
If you've ever seen Mexicans who buy a car in the U.S, you will see the shock in their face , when a police officer doesn't accept their bribe. Its mind numbing to them.
Trust ME...sometimes its better for LESS FREEDOM than more.
By the time Mexico tried to do something about Cartels , it was too late... that even now STREET THUGZ, have no limits on street robbery. They know the govt and police are weak.... they rob people in DAYLIGHT.
Whats funny is that we have GUN CONTROL LAWS!
Legalizing will not increase use. I do not use crystal meth or heroin. This is not because they are illegal. It is because I have weighed the risks and benefits. Prohibition is the source of profit for criminals. Prohibition also taints the lives of millions of people by leaving them with criminal records(millions of arrests in the US for possession, not trafficking). Prohibition is also unequally enforced. We are the Land of the Free yet we have the largest prison population on Earth. The War on Drugs is a War on People. End it now!
Still won't solve the problem of violence in Mexico. First of all the approach to "legalize this & legalize that" is ILLOGIC. Legalization means practically putting your hands up in the air and stopping to fight - BASICALLY - SURRENDERING ...and this is unacceptable. The root of the problem is our willingness to consume drugs - without it, there would be NO cartels, because they wouldn't have the market that its the base of their existence. Second - the "legalization of the drug transportation" would mean the cartels would be waging their wars against each other for the TOTAL CONTROL of the routes - WITHOUT ANY INTERFERENCE FROM THE STATE. Potentially that would mean an even BIGGER violence escalation.
+capitalist4life If they did then the price would drop and everyone would be in the business in Mexico. But, the United States Federal Government would still be able to extradite Mexicans to the US to stand trial, and then go to prison.
+MMMGrower *FACEPALM* do you think you are a free person that do not need *intervention* from me to walk where you want to? because if i tied you up, you WOULD need me to *intervene* by undoing my existing intervention and untie you so that you can walk. According to you, it means that fundamentally you cannot walk without me. roflmao
The speaker is right in identifying the US market for drugs as the driving force behind the cartels. some think legalization is the answer, but fortunately, most do not. It is said by some, with an aire of hopelessness, that th drug users won't stop using, so legalization is all that will work. Without being too longwinded, I just want to point out that there are a few countries in the world that have managed to suppress drug usage, with a combination of stiff penalties and conservative culture. Singapore is of course the champ - virtually no drug users there. China has also done well, though there is some, perhaps statistically small use of opium, which is a hangover from the old pre-Mao era - but even pre-Mao, China was tough on drug users. And then there is India, where one of the main reasons one does not do drugs is to avoid shaming the family, which will slap their son around a lot if it becomes known he has used drugs, say, meth at a rave, and the son will never hear the end of it and will lose access to the family's money stream, and perhaps papa will take away the motorbike. Except in Goa, if police hear about a rave, and they often do, they descend upon it and make mass arrests. Then, if you look at the press photos, almost all the ravers in police custody have scarves over their faces, cuz, though the parents will most certainly be informed, the matter will be far worse if the neighbors find out. So it is not impossible to suppress drug use, however, such will only happen in a conservative culture. No one needs these drugs, except maybe some very ill people will feel better after getting high on weed, and there is no point in taking drugs "recreationally", and doing so really does define one as a loser, cuz there's plenty to do without drugs, I mean there's a megahuge amount to do. It's not like USA is boredom central. So it is important for every sound minded person to put down drug use as often as possible, and to make some extra efforts, such as mentoring teens, and of course vote for Republican or Tea Party candidates. In recent elections, India has just veered further to the right - but they are not wanting to impose Hindu religion on everyone or anything like that, but do want to maintain the importance of the family and clean living, and further pursuit of education and manufacturing. Conservative China is now the number 2 economic global power after USA, and will soon likely surpass the USA. India will be coming up faster and faster. Singapore of course is quite on top. Time will show that conservative cultures win, cuz they have fewer social problems.
exactly. that guy who talked about the science of happiness was absolutely amazing and completely spot on. I only realised that after having to watch it about 5 times though, cause he was talking way too fast for me to let it sink in.
Just another interesting addition to the mans speach. The professionalism of the cartels extends to the point of them hiring military experts from many sources including from europe and the us. These Hired men come from quite interesting backgrounds, mainly ex military mercenary types of outfits.
Decriminalizing everything would hurt the drug economy much more than this prohibition BS and at the very least shift some of the profits to others. Unemployment may be quite a bit lower if that were to happen.
The need for 'jobs' and making a living its a part of the problem, and that is directly related to the economy, since while it creates 'regulatory' associated jobs it eviscerates other needed fields of job creation and social productivity, by money restriction and by harrasment/stigmatization (silent innocent victims), disguised as 'competition' in the current western-advanced society. Something is mighty wrong with the whole thing.
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For the sake of reality-based information for the public, it would be good to know the actual production number, and if possible the consumption too, because when the standard news and official institutions present them it's very hard to believe that so many willing customers exist. If the rate of it is so high it ends up in higher mid and long term numbers of victims. If people are serious about solutions for the consequences of it, a world wide legalization strategy would be better over a local one, and the compromise to respect those that choose not use them, even after a rehab.
But how to change that? I am all for legalizing weed, but can someone ever legalize heroine, cocaine, etc.? We have to face a dilemma, of either confronting dangerous drug use and give criminal gangs power or legalizing it some way or another, decreasing the power of the cartels. Is there any middle ground possible? A soft approach, that decreases the power of the cartels without having too much dangerous consequences of drug consumption i would love, but i don't currently know one.
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Notice how the maps shown by this man deliberately avoid focusing on Cuba and southern Florida
bad job. Mr C I A undercover agent aka nutty professor.
"There are many dealers that offer a service where if you send them a text message they guarantee a delivery of the drug in 30 minutes or less." They may say they guarantee a delivery in 30 minutes or less, but if you're getting it from a paisa, whos a runner, and he's delivering it, it's more like 2 hours and they assure you after 30 minutes they're just a block away and will be there in 5 minutes, and 5 minutes when said from a dealer really means like 30 minutes to an hour. Unless you're picking it up from a spot they're already at, you're probably gonna be waiting a while.
Legalize it all! Not just weed, but heroin cocaine, ect.
In my 40 years i have never even touched alcohol or tobacco, so this is not the opinion of some stoner. Why would I want billions of tax money spend to protect some looser junkie from himself? If they want to shoot up, let them. Sell the stuff in pharmacies and use the revenue from the sales tax for treatment & prevention programs. Then Mexico can be a country again and the militarization of law enforcement that undermines the american republic can be reversed.
What he didn't say is that the guns that the cartels use in Mexico all come from the US. From what I hear now it seems the Sinaloa cartel won the war, and they were helped by the government of Mexico. And Calderon, who presided over the carnage in Juarez, now teaches in Harvard. Go figure.
The war on drugs is a failure. Prohibition only makes the wrong people wealthy, and sucks the money tight out of the tax payer's pocket. Regulation and treatment haven't been given a shot. It's about time. Our prison industrial complex is a sad joke.
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