Public policy expert Anne-Marie Slaughter made waves with her 2012 article, "Why women still can't have it all." But really, is this only a question for women? Here Slaughter expands her ideas and explains why shifts in work culture, public policy and social mores can lead to more equality — for men, women, all of us.
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Interesting. I think of her kids. What was the reason they were having issues? Was it because with her, her work trumped her family altogether? She wasn’t living with her family . That in itself showed selfishness and all about me.
Most men work to support their family. They are competitive in nature. They push harder overall. Women are most agreeable. Equally is not sameness. It’s not a competition. It’s being a team bringing our uniqueness into the relationship.
When these people talk, it’s always about being the leaders, never about being garbage collectors or working on an oil rig. That’s closer to equally, but no, let men have at those areas. You wonder where pay differences come from? It’s not women get paid less for the same work. No it’s there aren’t choosing the high paying physical jobs. There lack of equally would become apparent instantly. It’s hard demanding work. It appears it’s all about the perceived power!
Most women I know once kids come along have the mother hormones kick in, the nurturing instinct,. I have seen hardcore work keeners quit work entirely at that point. Or if on maternity leave, in Canada we also have paternity leave too. However that can be switched to the mother. Very few men take it. Why the mothers want that time with their babies! And they should. Babies need their moms!
She starts to say around 12:00 minutes in that the focus is to "resocialize men" and "make caregiving cool for men" as teaching tools amongst both men AND women in society ***so that everyone can have a choice to be breadwinner or caregivers or both without facing stigma from peers and society***. That is literally what she says word for word in that minute and a half, "Be whatever you want to be" is her message at 13:40. And its true- we need to educate each other and our kids of all genders that it is ok to work or stay home, that there is validity in both and the person has a right to choose whatever works best for them and their family situation.
Typical arrogant, self-righteous, hypocritical, bigoted feminist. Even after she admits that women chose man according to status her only thought is "re-socialize men". Everybody who knows the least about gender dynamics knows that female hypergamy is the driver for this. As Darwin already said: "men compete and women chose". And women chose money and power all over the world as many studies show. So, if you want to re-socialize anybody, re-socialize WOMEN! But noooo Ms. feminist... women are just perfect that way they are. Just putting all the blame on men and re-engineering them is so much nicer then looking in the mirror and taking responsibility for the action of women is so much easier. Taking responsibility for their actions is anyway something that feminist have train out of women from day one, and unformatted successfully in many case. Of course it is much nice just to blame men for everything and never having to look in the mirror and work on your self. This arrogant, self-righteous, hypocritical, bigoted feminists make me sick to the core.
I'm glad that she made the right choice, based on love and responsibility, before her family fell apart. She would have been filled with regret. That prompting was the Holy Spirit calling her. It is sad and wrong that women (and men) have been sold a huge lie called FEMINISM that does not recognize and accept that men and women have natural differences.
Unfortunately she still doesn't get it. She is still trying to convince us that the elites have to design the "perfect" modern society for us to be happy. I want the government to stay out of our lives and stop trying to reengineer society. The New World Order is not meant to help us but to destroy.
So women will work less because of their focus on their families and will simply be replaced by people who put their carreer first and family second, who's going to end as CEO? the guy that worked all time for the company, or the women who worked half time? Basic economics.
the real feminism movement of today is based on lesbianism the hard core feminist wants to impregnate there own kind ,but they cant because they do not have one
so what they do instead is indoctrinate the female with there programming of confusion
to hate men
I love her to death but I can't help but notice a few things she ignores:
-Biology. Men and women don't prioritize the same things so parity isn't possible, which is what she means by equality.
-Our economy is not currently paying men and women what it used to. We work more hours and are paid less.
-Romanticizing corporatism and that work ethic for women is trying to shame them for not being like men.
"i want to be equal to men"
"i want a boyfriend who earns more than me"
you literally cannot reconcile these, if you can't compromise your backward tastes with your modern ambitions then this would reduce your dating pool to a smaller and smaller bunch of men until there is only a hundred or so male CEOs with a million women after them. You will most likely lose out and live alone, and sadly women can't wait as long as men to have children, so don't wait on society to change its attitude.
I don't agree with all the ideas she presented, but I find this pretty interesting and I think that it ought to start a conversation. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this the whole point of TED?
Don't trust a women who wears pant like Man & who has hair shorter than your brother Billy😎
She is obviously a Narcissist & a tool of the devil to further dumb down our Womankind. Just look at those glassy eyes with no genuineness or soul in it.
Red and blue are both primary colours, but neither is the same in colour. Each does, however, have an equal status in the colour spectrum. In a similar fashion, men and women have an equal status in nature, but they are not the same; otherwise, we would have a hermaphroditic society.
A woman will always make a better woman than a man would if a man attempted to emulate the patterns of behaviour of a woman, and vice versa. A woman's destiny, therefore, by nature, is as primary care giver in the home. There can be no equality, as such, other than by "status in nature". A woman cannot essentially become a high rise construction worker, for example, just as she cannot become a plumber. You may see the very rare exception, but the exception is not the rule.
The real argument here, then, is about the working poor (often employed in precariat occupations), where both the man and the woman in a family situation HAVE to work. Many women amongst 80 percent of the population with young children would choose NOT to work, but for all practical purposes simply cannot afford to.
Splendid. Sometimes I wonder on how to have a true home in the future and avoid the divorce. I found it helpful to determine the roles between wifes and husbands. Our societies is significantly changing, so that it is so vital to take another views on that issues. Why are people flexible on working but different at home.
Feminists should also understand that most men are not as stupid as they think. The role of househusband is a risky bet, with a high chance family break-up, often due to resentment from the female, working partner, who still sees home and family as her domain. Wishful thinking about human nature doesn't always fit with the reality of human nature.
Did she and her husband even just once have a discussion about whose responsibility the boys' academic progress was? If he was at home the whole time, then it was mostly HIS. It wasn't her fault. Her husband failed their sons. Period.
Sorry , I´m ready to live the common sense revolution more than another, great words make great problems, and as you say and do we can convince with personal decisions, vital choices that make ours better, more than principles and theories. Thank you.
This woman is an evil WARMONGER with a leftist coverage. Yes you are a globalist operative and the goal is to destabilize Russia and China to bring in your one world GOVERNANCE BY THE TOO BIG TO FAIL corporations who will serve a very tiny "ELITE" OF BANKER FAMILIES.
Typical of feminists she can only see the top 0.0001% of rich, powerful men and is blind to the majority of men that are trampled upon by society. She is richer and more powerful than 99.9% of men but she's still complaining! She wants the top job and a full family life. Women can never be satisfied.
Strange feeling to watch this as a swede. Almost every father around me take just as much responsibility as caregivers as the mothers. For 15 years ago I would listen to somebody claiming that men are genetically less suited to be caregivers than females and give the claim serious consideration. Now it would just sound silly, it dosen't match what I see. I know that the statistics say that there still is quite a bit to go, but attitudes have certainly changed a lot. And USA is obviously quite a bit behind, if what Slaughter says is controversial to anyone.
I have read many negative comments and I think I understand why. On the one hand, much of what she says has a lot of good attached to it, such as taking care of and being there for the family. Also, that positive change is happening. The problem comes with all people like her who speak "forcefully" for a cause, no matter the cause, and come across as "talking down" or "in your face." That lack of humility is the biggest turnoff for most activists like her, and it ends up diluting the message. If you really look at most activists that have made the biggest impacts in history, they often come across as having a high level of tenderness, meekness, and servitude. I'm sure you know who I'm talking about. God bless and peace to all.
+Flarus who is talking about banning women from getting an education or not letting men raise children?
I was just saying that Slaughter's goals of having men be 50% of homemakers/stay at home parents will never happen because men are genetically predisposed due to evolution to go out and work in the same manner that women are more predisposed to be close to and raise their children.
I suggest you read:
It is a fascinating article that will change the way you think.
If you have anything you'd like me to read please let me know.
When do we get to celebrate that men and women are neurologically, physically and emotionally different? Equality shouldn't mean sameness. This push for everyone to be the same is damaging. When I treat my kids with equality, that doesn't mean that I give them the same things in the same amounts.
The numbers are never going to be fair. Men and women are different. Equality is one thing, but sometimes this gets out of line. For example, something that's argued a lot is pay rate, let's say this: average pay for men in certain position is $100k but for women it's $95k. Maybe the men have more people who are senior thus, raising the average. Maybe the men are overall better at the job than women. Maybe they negotiated their income better. Maybe there are countless reasons why, other than gender inequality.
I agree with everything she said except we now have evidence that the more housework a guy does the less sex a couple has. Personally I wouldn't want my partner to be a stay-at-home dad. I wouldn't find that arousing one bit. http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/men-who-do-housework-have-less-sex/
I think the solution is for people to have less kids. Some people are better at parenting than others. Some make better politicians than mothers. You can't have it all.
It seems like every time people hear certain words like feminism all these different ideas come up in their mind which I am guilty of too but if you just listen to what she's saying instead of perceiving ulterior motives just because she mentions feminism, you'll get that she is talking about equality and more fluidity between different gender roles. Masculine qualities are praised in our society as the ideal and all she is saying is that feminine qualities should be valued just as much. She is not saying all men and only men should all go home and be "housemen" she clearly said that she decided to go home and take care of her family. If a man OR woman wants to have more time to take care of their family, they should be given the same respect in that decision as they would from taking a promotion in their career. The idea is that these different roles associated with the two genders should be more fluid to both men and women rather than only having the roles for men being open to women. It's about valuing roles typically associated with femininity equally to the roles associated with masculinity
This talk is a lot better than other feminism talks. Most of the time it's women this women that, glass ceiling blah blah blah. This talk actually talks about gender equality from an interesting perspective, and not stressing on how women are treated unfairly. I hope the other ignorant aggressive feminists can follow her lead to talk with a down to earth approach.
I think this talk could have engaged much better if it was framed differently as the tension of modern society, the global service economy as she phrased it, with 3 things: money, work, and family. How can TEDsters reboot the old model (aka work-life balance) and make a smarter system that values both work and family, and that would changing culture and economy.
TED once used to be a great platform where magnificent people shared ideas.
Now the feminists have taken over and any woman can get on stage and talk about her narcissistic delusions. "I want it all and I want it now! But I don´t want the responsibility! Oh, and please...treat me like a princess!"
15 yrs Handyman Service. Unlike yardmen or poolmen, I go inside homes. Nearly 10,000. Saw approx 100+ Mr. Moms. Most Mr. Moms somehow "not quite right in the head". 19 attempted suicide. 3 succeeded. Mr. Mom is a recipe for male depression. This emasculation of males has got to stop. When Rome was built, men were warriors. When it fell, most men were effeminate. Now, we see men wearing pink clothes, white rimmed sunglasses, white watches, etc. It's pathetic. Don't support any policy that promotes male domestication or subordination to women. It hurts everyone when men don't rule. Everyone. Including women and children. Men must take back that which they abdicated or we will end up like Rome. Period.
How about we stop posting stupid talks from feminists and encourage more talks comming from scientists and experts in different fields, huh TED? I've seen enough feminists lately (not to mention the silly ones in the comment section) and it's starting to rot...
Very well said. I like listening to an intelligent, strong and beautiful woman speak. We need to let the women run things for a century and see how things go. Men have had the helm long enough. Look at what a mess we've made. Great talk lady.
+daniel kong +Victoria Shi +D415YCU773R You see, this is why MGTOW will ultimately win: feminists and MRA's can fight for "equality" and control of the earth all they want; MGTOWs want to BURN THE WORLD DOWN.
As much as this video seems all about a pro-family gender equality type of idea, it really isn't. It's just another piece of propaganda to get more and more people to have families to enslave them back into the globalist economy to work bullshit jobs for low pay.
On the opposite end, women get help from men raising children, bringing mens' paychecks back into households that otherwise would've been a single mother household.
Thanks, but no thanks. Women, go out and do whatever you want; us men don't care. We're going out to do whatever we want and we're not going back to the plantation any more. Ladies, you want the world? Here, keep it..... along with all the responsibilities that go along with it too. You punch the time clock at a job you hate for the next 50 years just as us 'worthless men' did. Us guys are going to the beach to work on our tans.
Fucking sick of people like you. Ted is about ideas worth spreading, ideas with a possible impact on all humanity.
This world is sick because of people who do their jobs and nothing else, ruining lives, ruining the soil, polluting air and water, destroying everything we need to live for maximization of profit, probably because they don't know what it means to take care of someone.
In my opinnion, someone who doesn't know this existential part of human life is incomplete and absolutely inappropriate for any kind of executive position.
I agree with this idea. Family problems is the number one cause of members of our society turning out less then ideal.
We now live in a technological age where the necessity to "work" is simply a product of how we run society. We should aim to not put families through this gauntlet. It would be better for our society. This is one of many reasons I support the movement of our zeitgeist. One where humanity operates logically, not simply rolling with the same zeitgeist of the generation before us. It's our world now. We have new information. How are we going to shift the zeitgeist?
Frankly, this video is boring to me. I zoned out so many times while watching it.
I admit I am a single Male, and I have no interest in care-giving. But I also don't care what other Males do with their lives, if they want to be a 'stay at home dad', then that is fine if it is what they want, I respect their choice, it does not make them 'less of a man' in my eyes.
Four stages of a feminazi script / speech -
1. 0:10 to 2:37. Gender (Read: Feminazi) Epiphany.
2. 2:38 to 7:22. Whining. (Use of Gender Tears Quota).
3. 7:24 to 13:37. Subversion / Male duality. (Jane want wimpy Tarzan).
4. 13:38 to 17:11. Messianic posturing. (A new dawn awaits America).
She's full of it. She won't "have it all".
Sorry but I know plenty of men that love being Fathers and primary caregivers.
Men don't need to be socialized to accept something they never had time for in the past it's women that need to be socialized to realize the obvious.
+TheChildOfGods you really don't need to name call and shame to get your point across, that just lessens your argument. Because you do have some valid points. Yes, there are women out there who just want to blame men. There are men out there and in this comment section that are just blaming women. It's easier to point fingers instead of looking what out actions do to harm others. The focus needs to be directed against fighting against each other and telling each other the right way to do things, and just support each other with whatever opportunities we want to have and fix the power structures that prevent us from having those opportunities. This is about valuing the strengths of individuals and genders and races, not forcing them into molds and denying them any opportunity that anyone else has. Like corporations that withhold jobs from both genders just to keep more money for themselves, and government spending that does not help it's its people get better healthcare or education. Fight the oppressive powers, not each other.
Typical arrogant, self-righteous, hypocritical, bigoted feminist. Even after she admits that women chose man according to status her only thought is "re-socialize men". Everybody who knows the least about gender dynamics knows that female hypergamy is the driver for this. As Darwin already said: "men compete and women chose". And women chose money and power all over the world as many studies show. So, if you want to re-socialize anybody, re-socialize WOMEN! But noooo Ms. feminist... women are just perfect that way they are. Just putting all the blame on men and re-engineering them is so much nicer then looking in the mirror and taking responsibility for the action of women is so much easier. Taking responsibility for their actions is anyway something that feminist have train out of women from day one, and unformatted successfully in many case. Of course it is much nice just to blame men for everything and never having to look in the mirror and work on your self. This arrogant, self-righteous, hypocritical, bigoted feminists make me sick to the core....
As much as every relationship is different and can't be thrown in the same bag, somethings can't be disputed, like the fact that a man as a primary caregiver is something that really couldn't exist in the past unless you happened to be quite wealthy.
The obvious here being you can't throw everyone into the same bag. Some men would love this opportunity. Some men would not think much of it.
Two things bug me about her speech...
What does she mean by "make care giving cool for men"? I don't know any fathers who have been put to shame because they love their family and sacrifice for them.
The other thing was, "socialize men". What exactly does she mean by that? I heard that in another video that made it look like women want to sculpt and groom men to fit women's needs. Is that what she's talking about?
Typical arrogant, self-righteous, hypocritical, bigoted feminist. Even after she admits that women chose man according to status her only thought is "re-socialize men". Everybody who knows the least about gender dynamics knows that female hypergamy is the driver for this. As Darwin already said: "men compete and women chose". And women chose money and power all over the world as many studies show. So, if you want to re-socialize anybody, re-socialize WOMEN! But noooo Ms. feminist... women are just perfect that way they are. Just putting all the blame on men and re-engineering them is so much nicer then looking in the mirror and taking responsibility for the action of women is so much easier. Taking responsibility for their actions is anyway something that feminist have train out of women from day one, and unformatted successfully in many case. Of course it is much nice just to blame men for everything and never having to look in the mirror and work on your self. This arrogant, self-righteous, hypocritical, bigoted feminists make me sick to the core!!!
+VagabondCrazyDiamond +Hoops Dreads & Threads I think what she means by "socializing men" is yes, grooming them to look like decent men rather than scruffy and overweight. Get it to be socially acceptable to get men to spruce up their appearance, if only to make them a little more tolerable for women to live with them until the time is right- then divorce them and cash in on the benefits like a Certificate of Deposit or something.
I also think it means trying to get women to dress a little more sophisticated than the average street-walker, spruce up a little charm and talk/ socialize with men, if only to rope a dope some dumb men into thinking they'd make good housewives. 20 years later, the divorces, foreclosures, child support, alimony, street-walker looking women and all of that feminist crap will rear its head yet again.
Third, I think she means not forcing men to accept the roles/ responsibility of raising children (which will NEVER happen if trying to shame/ force men to accept that responsibility), but show being a dad in a good light to get the simps and manginas to care for these single mom's babies/ stay in the family household to work to death caring for mother and kids.
Women can no longer rely on the bankrupt EBT, food stamps, welfare, and Section 8 housing because a majority of men are unemployed/ not making enough to support families/ pay enough taxes into the system to keep such programs running.
The terminology of resocializing men is meant in the same way as the idea of it for women. Every gender, race and creed is influenced heavily by social constructs, which in turn shape the way they choose to live their lives. A resocializing is about changing the societal qualities deemed normal or right for a group of people. It involves changing words and phrasing and conceptions. A perfect example is a young boy who expresses emotion being told to "grow a pair" or "man up". This implies a lack of manhood because that boy is expressing emotion, which is a fundamentally damaging thing. That is just one of many many different examples that could be made for a resocializing.
While she is right about the role that men are being forced into, the rest of the core issues are simply defects of the capitalist environment we live in and untill that changes, dont expect your bosses to losen up your schedules for any reason, family or not..
Its not a coincidence all the countries that she refered to are some of the lleast capitalistc in the world..
+miltosapozante Actually, places like Denmark are *highly* capitalistic, with relatively few market regulations. The difference is that their tax rates are huge and they don't spend a ton on national defense. However, these are *not* socialist countries, because the government does not own the means of production.
I think most of her talk is useful. But in my opinion, she oversteps... she doesn't tackle the idea that our biology plays a huge part in what motivates men and women. I agree that we should basically be allowed to be stay at home dads, moms, or pursue a career, etc. But there is a biological impetus behind why the traditional roles existed in the first place. Understanding and dealing with that will make the cultural "revolution" more feasible.
stores usually are open from 8.30 to 12.30 and then reopen from 15.30 to 19.30 so it's possible some owner can take a nap but still they have a regular work schedule of 8 hours every day. if you work in any other place you have just one hour of lunch break and no nap is allowed. Slaughter seems to assume that we are less hard-working than US people which is not something I witnessed.
Well I guess it depends what part of Italy you live in. I've lived there the past two years with my husband who is Italian, and the town he lives in plus the surrounding ones shut down their stores from 1-4. His dad and girlfriend always come home for a nap. So no it is not a myth in all of Italy.
So let me get this straight – Anne-Marie Slaughter is advocating for men to be able to become traditional housewives!?
Quite frankly this stinks of backhanded advocacy, although I personally welcome her attempt to justify it. You see, this is the equivalent of advocating from your HOUSE the right for other people who live in homes to live in tents. If women have abandoned the roles of housewives, why in fucks name would men want it?
Women, just carry on dealing with YOUR issues, in fact I dare say that you can START dealing with your issues. Feminism has given women many things but it has never given women responsibility or accountability.
So true. What I find funny is that when men actually take on the roll of stay at home parent women resent being the ones who have to work and be the sole breadwinner. As is evidenced by the fact that in the UK the divorce rate for such households is double the normal rate.
Talk talk talk. i guerentee you even this woman will cave to the feminist/traditionlist pressures and more policy will be made that demonizes and makes men scapegoats for preferential treatment of women.
Its the same old song and dance of feminist minded "equality" seekers we have seen decade after decade. Good intentions then very horrible results then covering your ass so you dont have to take the fall as those policies take root and families, men , childrens lives are ruined.
Make new policy, policy turns lives to shit, make new policy to fix the problem, more lives ruined, make new laws and policy to make things more equal, more lives ruined. They will never learn no matter how much they try, their feminist utopia (equality utopia) is one big evil trap and most sheep fall for it.
No matter how much even the most elightened preach about "true" equality they always will paint men as the problem and womens/feminist ideology the solution. Its why she says they need to change the entire workplace.
People like this lady can talk all they want but until we see them start to call out feminism for the bullshit it has been, call out government and media for its misandry, call for true equality that includes the responsibilities women must share with men. then its all a bunch of feminist yada yada yada.
I think, Ivanna Nukia, which can be another interpretation to the discourse of Anne-Marie... Referring to the men to be better parents of our children, to remain more time with them and take the right decisions, with respect to the family we, which we created to live more in harmony, sometimes money can't buy certain things... like the love of our...
What a total load of twaddle.
What she really means is that inflation in the size of government and taxes that's required to run it has created an environment where both parents often need to work to support a family and cannot provide completely for their children, so lets tax the rich more and get the government to invest even more money to support them families.
Why not slash 80% of government, slash the spending, slash the taxes, get it back to so that 1 income can healthily cover an entire family and all their needs, not just for the wealthy. Go back to having parents actually raise children (man or woman, who cares) free up jobs so there's less unemployment for those seeking jobs and everyone will be happy again.
If what she says is true, that the best businesses who encourage family life as well as work are doing better, then let the free market work it out, the strongest survive and the weak fail, bad businesses practices die off and those which are good for business flourish.
+MGTOW4Ever This is very true, women actually command most of the spending power, it's amazing but men are really easily pleased, a few gadgets and some electronics, decent supply of beer and entertainment, games, movies, most of which you can get for free.
This is the year that I'm fairly sure I'll drop my working week down from 5 days to 4 days to deny the taxman some extra cash, I live really comfortably and don't need any extra money it's just getting dumped into saving account now.
Interestingly when I was dating not a single woman I met my age had her own place, either lived with her parents or with friends, wasn't earning enough to go steady by her self with their care jobs, etc.
+Jerkix Actually men on the most part don't spend money and if your not a Tradcon/Breeder a Men can survive quite easily in the 60's sense. Men don't drive the consumer spending (although women steal our money) do.
No, I didn't say any of that at all.
There's no indication any of that growth has come out of women joining the workforce, industry continues to improve the standard of living no matter the gender makeup of the economy.
Oh you want to live in the glory days of the 1960s? You better want a 1960s standard of living then! No flat screen TVs, no fancy cars, no iPhones/iPads, no laptops, no internet, no mobile phone, no eating out, no designer clothes... which co-incidentally if you gave up you COULD afford to pay for your family on a single income.
No, the only inflation you should be thinking about is your desires at what "provide completely" for your children actually means.
Equality is about having the option to do anything...whether you chose to or not. You may have never wanted to study law, but should anyone have the right to keep you from studying it ? People talk about not seeing enough women in construction or sports and not having enough men in nursing. Maybe we never will. And it does not matter as long as the reason is personal choice, and not discrimination or social pressures.
You know I don't like that Anne-Marie try to portray women from men as not being the problem in attitude, if the women's think being successful is over other men is attractive then that is what men have to be as we don't pick the women, they pick us men.
Also I live in Sweden and I think today's feminism is pure fucking BS. My intrest are in IT and I have been studying it for close to 4 years soon in different subjects. Atm I study networking and work on geing a CCNA and CCNP certificate and our class have around 30 students, can you guess how many of them are females? 1, there is only 1 female student in our whole class and there isn't many more in the class that was a year before mine. Once I see a 50/50 distribution in fields like IT and not a 99/1 distribution I can't accept that females are working on the correct ways for equality between the sexes. Oh yes just so you know, there was around 460 applicants to my college program and only 25 of them were females. FFS there are more male nurses and pre-school teachers then there are females in the IT fields.
+Cyrus Sabounchi No, I don't think Scandinavian men need to be more masculine or 'make the first moves'; their fear of how much devastation and destruction women can bring to their lives justifies their isolationism.
Circumcision, cutting a guy's penis off, child molestation of boys/ sexual assault against men, domestic violence, false accusations of sexual harassment, rape or domestic violence, manipulation, domination, female testosterone-fueled aggression (yes, I mean testosterone not estrogen- environmental contamination of the food supply has thrown off women's body chemistry. They are producing less and less estrogen and more testosterone.)
With men facing such a raw deal and/ or dealing with that much social pain, it's no wonder men are dropping out of society in record numbers.
She doesn't understand men. that's all. it's not her fault. she is not a man and she was tired of taking a man's role.
Nobody told me to soldier elements on electronic board because I was a boy. I loved to "make things" as any other man does,
she says socially condition men to become women. that's not absurd at all. It's happening all over the place. that's why women and men are sexually suppressed.
My friend says Scandinavian guys rarely approach women in clubs or bars. They need to become more masculine I reckon, not feminine.
+Cloud Seeker I don't think you're being rude, I mostly agree with you. I really dislike how feminists use their agenda to force societies to artificially affect job distribution. Efficient laws to combat gender discrimination are in place. Women are able to get the same jobs as men, they just seem not to *choose* to do it. We don't see as many female CEOs or world leaders simply because there are not as many females wanting to pursue these carreers.
I believe feminists are just playing their gender card to force their ideas upon society, which is exatly the opposite of what the initial idea of feminism may have been -- to make both sexes be equally able to pusue their dreams.
+Sesarrbg Well exactly why then do the feminist on the other hand point to men and say "You should be more like women and do the jobs women mostly do. Be a housedad, or become a nurse." when they themselves do not want to do the things many men have to do because there is no women that are intrested in doing their job? The job have to be done so why do you want only men to be forced to do it? It is to me simply a lame excuse with finger pointing where they blame men for not being able to have the cake or eat it as well.
I know that many people have different interests and many are not interested in working in IT, as car mechanics being a nurse and soo on, but if you want to use this explanation to explain away why women aren't geting into these professions then do the same when it gets to any other profession men do not want to get into. You can't use that excuse if you fight for job equality because if you do you only cherry pick what jobs you want equality in. So if you use that excuse don't tell men to become nurses or housedads as you don't tell women to become IT-technicians or car mechanics. You are being biased and unfair if you do that and claim to fight for equality.
I am sorry for being rude but cut the cultural crap, the central tenet for feminism is to change the culture so there is no such cultural difference. Do you think they achieve that by only focusing on what gender have the most power in the top job positions? I sure as hell don't, I don't even think they fight for a equal society but for a Matriarchy instead of a Patriarchy.
I aggree, but men and women are interested in different things. You will not find as many females in professions that attract more introverted people.
You will not find many female car mechanics or female cable technicians.
On the opposite sides you will not find as many men in Health professions and fashion design for example. How many male secretaries have you seen?
We do not see 50/50 distributions in professions because the problem is cultural.
as an MRA i fully support this woman. from what she said there i can tell she wants real equality, not the supremacy that the extremists are spouting left right and centre.where most of the time feminists concentrate on feminine problems, she recognises that men's problems also need to be solved, for the benefit of both.
This woman is an asshole on so many levels.
Men are not the cause of all evil. She calls for equality, but wants superiority over defective men that can't seem to figure out what's wrong with the world. She looks at stay-at-home dads and claims everyone sees them as weak pansies who can't get a job and aren't attractive. She just pulls that nugget out of her ass like it's a fact. I'm a left wing Democrat but if she stayed at my house, she would not get the nicest towels I have.
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